Question Where to Live While Doing Internet Marketing?

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    I'm in college right now about to graduate at the end of this semester. It got me thinking that for the first time I will be able to live anywhere I want. I am not rich but I am making a decent living online so I will not be getting a "real" job.

    I have only briefly left the US so I know nothing about what places have the best taxes, culture, climate or anything like that. Besides hearing stories about ladyboys in Thailand I don't know where to begin looking.

    Where is the best place for a young internet marketer to live? And do you live there?
     
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    Not Switzerland.

    I live there.

    On a more serious note, Berlin, Germany is pretty hot right now.

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    That's a pretty broad question, and completely depends on yourself as an individual. Considering you're just coming out of college, what are you looking for? Party scene, work scene, relaxed life, or?

    If you're looking to dive into the work world, then obviously, Silicon Valley is probably your best bet. If you're looking for more of a party culture, maybe check out some cities on the coast of Brazil or some Mediterranean islands.

    If you're looking for a relaxed, peaceful life around people with good hearts, then I can suggest Thailand. Just stay out of the tourist areas. I've been living here for 6 years, and plan to stay for quite a while longer. I very much enjoy how society here works compared to the West.
     
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    Wherever you feel comfortable, that's what I would suggest. People spend far too much time worrying about dodging taxes and forget about what is really important; where you feel comfortable, relaxed and productive. I love the country I live in despite any taxes I pay because it affords my family and myself wonderful opportunities. Some people forget about perspective for the sake of a few dollars, which I don't see any sense in. For the record, I don't make millions, but my day job pays reasonably well and I make a little on the side with my online endeavours. If by some miracle I start making millions, I won't be moving. I simply like it here too much, and that is what I would suggest to you - find that place that is 'you'.
     
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    I guess I am not really sure what I want which is why I'm asking here. I know what living in New England is like and I want to do something else while I am single and in my 20s. Definitely something warmer and more fun than Worcester.
     
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    Young, single, and looking for adventure in a warmer climate, eh? Maybe check out some Mediterranean islands like Malta or Tenerife. Malta has excellent both, tax code and immigration laws, so staying shouldn't be a problem.

    Or how about Mexico? If you're looking to hook up with fellow self-employed internet marketers, then Chang Mai, Thailand has a pretty good amount of them.
     
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    Are you looking for an English speaking country? With the 40% fall in the Canadian dollar the last couple of years living in Canada could be cheap, they have some great international cities. I could see myself living in Vancouver.

    I always wanted to buy a place in Costa Rica near the ocean.
     
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    Cheap, fast/stable internet (if you're broke). Otherwise, fast/stable internet.
     
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    Malta looks really nice. I will have to vacation there to see what it is like. I guess there are nice areas in Mexico but I'm kind of worried I'll be kidnapped or something like that.

    For Chang Mai how is everything besides that? Being around other similar people is awesome but maybe not so much if it's just a bunch of guys all stuck on an island together.

    Yes to English speaking considering I don't know any other languages.

    Canada is nice but it is only a half day drive from where I grew up and I want beaches more than I want blizzards.

    How do I know what places have reliable internet?
     
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    Woah that is a pretty cool site.

    It really wants me to move to Australia... Wollongong, Gold Coast, and Brisbane more specifically. Also Thailand, Portugal, and... Jacksonville?

    I'm definitely not moving to Jacksonville anytime soon. Does anyone here live in any of the other places the site suggested?
     
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    I've been to Thailand but never stayed long enough to consider it 'home'.

    I stayed in Lisbon Portugal for a few months. It's nice.

    Pros:
    Cost of living is low
    Standards are high, at least higher than lots of other places in the world
    The city is beautiful
    Portuguese food is off the hook
    Portuguese beaches are off the hook
    Portuguese girls are off the hook
    Internet is good or great
    Good population of English speakers
    Portugal is beautiful - go to Algarve and be prepared to fall in love
    The bread and pastries are tasty as fuck
    The Mediterranean-cafe-cigarettes-and-coffee-streetside-plaza-out-for-lunch thing is in full force
    Taxis are cheap

    Cons:
    Portuguese people can be...dismissive. (ex-rulers of the world syndrome)
    Portuguese economy is in crisis and a lot of people are struggling so sometimes it feels like the national mood is a bit meh
    Summer is pretty touristy, especially around Ajuda/Belem
    Seafood isn't as cheap as it should be, or maybe I'm saying that because I grew up in Maine and am spoiled silly with good seafood
    It's not near much, at least not compared to Germany/Switz/etc. because it's on the ass end of Iberia
    Winter is short but it gets near to freezing and houses aren't heated or insulated. Space heaters and layers inside for a few months a year (so I'm told, wasn't there for winter)

    $.02
     
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    I've been in a small city in NE Thailand for about 5 years now.

    • Cheap living -- I have a nice, fully furnished, modern 3bdrm, 2 bath house with large gated yard for $400/month. I'd be lucky to rent a parking stall in Canada for that. Water is about $5/month, and electric is up to you -- can be $20 or $200, depending on how much you use the air-con.
    • Menial customer service is excellent. Electric, water or internet goes out, you can expect it back on within a couple hours max. If you need a plumber, electrician, gardener, or anything, they're at your house within hours of calling. If you buy something at a store, delivery generally happens that afternoon if not immediately -- no waiting for days. I just bought a treadmill the other day, and they immediately loaded it up in the back of a pickup, and gave me a free ride home in the process.
    • Culture and society is excellent, but this depends on you as an individual. I personally love it, and believe Buddhists have many things right that us Westerners have wrong. It's a very safe and peaceful society filled with common respect and decency. Dress decently, don't act like an idiot, be respectful, and everyone will love you.
    • Food can be cheap or expensive, and it's up to you. Eating at the markets is cheap, and for example, I can get say 4 huge, juicy, quality chicken breasts for about $4. After a while though, you begin missing Western ingredient like bell peppers, lemons, quality rib-eye, salmon steak, parmasean cheese, wine, etc... then the import tax kicks in, and your grocery bill is more than you'd pay at home.
    • There's no police where I live. I've been at this house 14 months, and have seen 2 cops my entire time. One was just passing through on a motorbike, and the other was escorting a monk as he blessed some recently purchased land. The mafia control this area, which is fine with me. You leave them alone, they leave you alone.
    • Expect your privacy to be out the window. I know Thailand is known as some haven for criminals, but not sure how that works. Unless you're living in downtown Bangkok, expect everyone within a 3km radius to know the general gist about you. I can barely take a shit without other people knowing about it. Takes a while to get used to, but personally I view it as very beneficial. There's a reason there's virtually no crime here, but yet no cops. You're not allowed to act like an idiot, because if you do, within hours everyone within a 3km radius will know about it and you'll be shunned by everyone.
    • Weather is great all year around. This winter was exceptionally cold, and got down to +7C (44F) at night, which is by far the coldest I've experienced. Summer can be quite hot though, and gets up to +44C (111F) during the day. When that happens, you just plan your days accordingly -- if you have errands to run, do them early morning, or late at night.

    I don't know, lots I could say. Any questions, feel free to ask.
     
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    Fuengirola, Malaga - The good clima here is perfect. I just walked to the office, in nothing else in t-shirt.

    The prices here are cheap! Not compared to thailand, but to many other places in Europe it's cheap to live in Spain. Oh, and in the summer period, there are new turist every week. So if you like clubbing, there are fresh meat every weekend ;)
     
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    What happens then if someone steals something from you? I'd imagine as a Westerner a lot of people would see you as a walking piggy bank and the lack of a solid police presence would scare me quite a bit.
     
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    tuna?? salmon??? chicken? plz clarify
    -godcat
     
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    It will be inappropriate on this forum to clarify it more...
     
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    Well, I have two strong, healthy 30kg dogs so that helps. Cats can't even get close to the gate without them noticing, let alone a thief jumping the wall. If someone tried breaking in at night, I'd be out of bed, and dressed with a baseball bat in hand before they reached the front door.

    Then again, it's a very communal society here, so everyone basically knows everyone. We might not be friends, but we all know and respect each other, so you don't really worry about petty theft. One of those "don't shit where you eat" type of things.

    Plus it's Buddhist, so the general mindset is to take life as it comes, never want for anything, and help your fellow human when you can. I can go wandering around the streets at 2am, and the most that's going to happen is someone passing by on a motorbike will stop and offer me a ride. I definitely never feel threatened or in danger.

    If something really bad happens, well, then I guess go down to the pool hall and pay the mafia to put the word out and get your stuff back. *shrug*

    EDIT: I should note, I'm in the furthest thing from a tourist area. Obviously, if you go to Phuket or something, then your experience will probably be different. After all, petty criminals tend to gravitate towards tourist areas.
     
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